P.Tatchell
2 posts
Joined: 02/05/2005 16:19:13
Location: United Kingdom (Excluding channel Islands)
Pot joint availability UK
Ive been trying to source a pair of inner cv/complete pot joints for the past week without success, MiniSpares are out of stock until late June and I need them yesterday. Anyone know of anywhere that still stocks them? Seems insane that stocks are now almost depleted and inner C.V. rebuild kits are no longer available. Thanks in advance, Peter.
Posted: May 02, 2005 04:24 PM
geordie racer
18 posts
Joined: 24/07/2007 14:54:26
Location: wolverhampton United Kingdom (Excluding channel Islands)
Pot joint gaiter metal band
Does anyone know how they fit the metal band around the pot joint gaiter during manufacture. It puzzles me as to how they manage to get it over the lip of the pot joint and the gaiter while maintaining the metals shape. I've replaced them with tie wraps so it's not that i need to know how to refit them just curious that's all.
Posted: Aug 02, 2007 08:16 AM
mark
397 posts
Joined: 18/08/2005 14:01:28
Location: Hitchin United Kingdom (Excluding channel Islands)
They make a special tool, it looks like a long pair of pliars, that is shaped at the end.
Posted: Aug 09, 2007 08:24 AM
Bobster
71 posts
Joined: 23/08/2007 15:49:09
Location: Barnsley United Kingdom (Excluding channel Islands)
Pot Joint
Can anybody help me with pot joints? My father bought them to fit on my mini at the beginning of the year, unfortunately my father unexpectedly passed away mid-January and i have these pot joints lying around and they need fitting so i can get the car back on the road for my 17th.
Any help, however small would be greatly appreciated.
Rob
Posted: Apr 04, 2008 03:33 PM
are they inner or outer joints?
Posted: Apr 05, 2008 10:49 PM
minimad.co.uk
1 posts
Joined: 07/02/2006 14:17:28
Location: Crawley United Kingdom (Excluding channel Islands)
Pot Joint Boot Clip
How do I fit the metal clip that comes with the unipart pot joint? Do I need to crimp the square sticking out bit?
Posted: Mar 17, 2010 09:27 PM
Barry Brown
511 posts
Joined: 23/06/2008 12:08:31
Location: New Barn United Kingdom (Excluding channel Islands)
Pass it through the bottom of the clip and then bend it back over the clip. Whilst keeping it tight , crimp the edges over to retain it.
If you can't get on with that clip then go to Wickes and buy a reel of galvanised garden wire. Cut a length that is 10cm longer than the circumference of the boot and then fit this using a pair of flat nose pliers to twist it around approx 5-6 times. Trim the excess to 2 cms length and then bend it back with the tails pointing away from the direction of travel (i.e. nearside joint will fold back clockwise when viewed from the driveshaft end)
I've done this on all my joints to match them to the original factory finish (for a Mk2) I did try the plastic cable ties provided but find these get caught inside the hub carrier and tear off when they meet the threaded backplate retaining holes. And galvanised wire is biodegradable eventually whereas nylon isn't.
Posted: Mar 19, 2010 01:58 PM
Tim
1849 posts
Joined: 18/10/2004 09:40:59
Location: Bournemouth United Kingdom (Excluding channel Islands)
I have a sneaky feeling that you need a "special tool" to do those metal clips up tightly - I've never had any success with them and always revert to using wire as suggested by previous poster. I usually wrap it round the joint 2 or 3 times to ensure a good fit.
Posted: Mar 19, 2010 05:09 PM
Pot joints
You just buy a complete new unit. The are held in place by circlips that fit loosely - one over the end of the driveshaft and one over the end of the diff output shaft. To get the old joints off the driveshaft just give them a clout with a big hammer. To get the new ones on just tap them gently over the clips until they snap into place.
Posted: Dec 14, 2010 05:21 PM
MM MkIV
4 posts
Joined: 14/09/2004 13:50:25
Location: Sunbury-on-Thames United Kingdom (Excluding channel Islands)
Rubber type cv joint fouling LCB
have some on order now, as cheaper than converting to pot joints.
Posted: Dec 24, 2004 08:52 AM
pickme
672 posts
Joined: 08/09/2004 23:10:14
Location: Chippenham United Kingdom (Excluding channel Islands)
Very loud sounds from my gearbox/diff
Sounds like a knackered pot joint to me then. As far as I can remember the test for this is to jack up one front wheel (make sure the other one is on hte ground) and then with the car in gear, try to rotate the wheel forwards and backwards. If the movement is excessive then the pot joint is the problem. They are fairly easy to swap on the later cars like yours and quite cheap. Have a look at Haynes and see what it says about this subject.
Posted: Aug 24, 2006 12:59 PM
matthew
Joined: 22/02/2009 22:34:07
Location: guernsey Channel Islands
oil leak advise needed
my 98 cooper is leaking oil around the inner cv/pot joint and i was wondering if replacin the pot joint itself would sort this or is there an oil seal that would need replacin? any advise would be helpfull, thanks.
Posted: Jun 11, 2009 12:24 AM
ray
21 posts
Joined: 17/06/2006 19:16:47
Location: borris Ireland (S.)
re query.
Posted: Jan 11, 2011 09:55 PM
CV pots
never had a shaft that would not come off, you only apply light pressure as you dont wat to split the inner pot joint
Posted: Sep 12, 2007 08:09 AM
53rosbif
3 posts
Joined: 22/12/2005 11:00:42
Location: Hyeres France
The ball joints are loose and the shaft can move outwards, the problem is at the inboard end where the pot will not come off the output shaft of the gearbox.
Posted: Sep 11, 2007 12:10 PM
Need to remove inner CV joint
From what I remember of doing this on a clubman some time back... I split the steering knuckle joints with a forked splitter and then undid the track rod end joint as well. Once they were both loose I jacked up the hub with a scissor jack and removed the lower wisbone. I then let the hub down again and it came free from the upper joint. This allows the hub to come away sideway from the car to disconnect the drive shaft from the inner pot(although better if you can undo the hub nut and seperate the hub from the outer CV joint as you get more room to play)
Now get someone to put tension on the drive shaft whilst using a small blunted cold chisel to drive the pot joint towards the diff so that it comes over the circlip. Once the drive shaft is free you can use a small pry bar to force the pot joint off the inner drive shaft.
Posted: Apr 18, 2011 05:06 PM
Worn diff or cv joint?
knocking on the 'overrun' is a common sign of joint failure. put it on axle stands and get someone to hold the brakes on for you. firstly hold the inboard pot joint and try to rotate the drive shaft. it shouldn't move more than 3/16" radially - if it does then the pot jiont is knackered or the splines are worn. secondly then try the same on the CV joint end. also try to jiggle it up/down to see how much general wear there is. one last test while underneath is to put the car in 4th gear then grab the inboard pot joint again and try to turn it - this will show you how much slack there is in the diff. it will move roughly 1/4 to 5/16" but if it's more than that or it clonks then you have a worn final drive.
as for testing CV joints - find a big car park, roll down the window, stick your head out and listen then drive in the tightest circle you can in 1st gear and then reverse. put it on opposite lock and do the same. any slack in the CV joint will show up more easily this way and there is minimum load in the inboard joints to mask issues with the CV joint.
did you check that all the radius arm connections are tight onto the subframe and lower arm?
Posted: Aug 13, 2010 09:58 AM
jaimie woodhead
Joined: 27/01/2007 09:38:32
Location: bradford United Kingdom (Excluding channel Islands)
reamer
when fitting diff side cover plate bushes i know these need to be remed for the pot joint but anyone know where i can get one, used a friends last time but it has since been lost
Posted: Jul 07, 2009 04:25 PM
Stage One Kits
One thing I would say about fitting an LCB to a 998 is to buy it from somewhere trustworthy and speak to them about it first because not all off the shelf LCBs will fit a 998. Hardy Spicer CV joints cause a problem too because that are larger than Pot type joints and clash with the bottom of the LCB.
Posted: Aug 17, 2006 12:20 PM
jack randall
9 posts
Joined: 26/11/2006 17:53:13
Location: mitcham United Kingdom (Excluding channel Islands)
upgrading brakes
hi, im looking at upgrading my brakes from drum to discs on the front. ive got a complete set off a later mini (1985 i think). the problem i have is that some of the ball bearings have come out of the inner cv joint. how do you go about replacing these and are they called pot joints? thanks
Posted: Dec 13, 2010 09:29 PM